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Poster: 74_Fan Date: May 26, 2010 4:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Hi all,

After lurking for a long time I thought I'd say hello. Went to a few shows in the late 80s but only really gotten into the GD in the last 10 years or so. This archive/forum is an amazing place where I have found endless inspiration from these great musicians, and tremendous wisdom/knowledge from the people who post, the comments, reviews, etc. So THANK YOU!

Just for S's and G's, here are some of my favorite shows/eras (currently): 5/26/72 (Oh, Pigpen!), 5/19/74 (Bill! Keith!), pretty much all of 1974, as my handle implies, 5/13/77, the Fillmore years, the early 80s "Reckoning" period, plus the established classics (Harpur, Cornell, et al).

Oddly, I'm not such a huge fan of the '73 shows that get so much respect, and find myself shuttling between 72-74 more often than not, but that's just where my head's at.

Thanks for being here.

74 Fan

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: May 27, 2010 1:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

This show has been messing with my mind lately.. Give it a try!
It made me forget about going where I was planning to go one day..
Listen especially to The Other One>Black Peter>Other One.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1972-08-12.sbd.smith.gems.105132.flac16

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Poster: 74_Fan Date: May 27, 2010 3:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Thanks, sky, I'll check it out.

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Poster: jerrys beard Date: May 27, 2010 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

As a fellow lurker...welcome aboard. 74 was a great year, but will echo the loving feelings for late 73. I pretty much stop at the end of 74 although I've been listening to 4-1-91 (recommended a few days ago) and actually enjoying it!

As Cliff has been discussing over the last month, the Europe run in 72 is truly supreme and well worth the time and effort if you haven't really gotten into it yet.

There is so much good music out there that it is difficult to pin it down. Enjoy!

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Poster: 74_Fan Date: May 27, 2010 9:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

I love those Euro 72 shows, like I think that Amsterdam (?) TV appearance is from...LOVE it. And makes me sad knowing it's the end of the PP era, just breaks my heart hearing him sing on that spring 72 tour, he was SO incredible.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: May 27, 2010 7:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

It's funny, some people like 73 better than 74 . I Love both ! I like the whole history of the band , though , my preference is for the 60's and 70's . 73-74 are right up there as my favs , I like jams, so go figure !
But one would be missing something, if you ignored the band pasted their "classic" period ( however you might define it ). Even in 95 , there is some great, and or interesting material, it is just more uneven . A little like Dylan, past his 60's records ,i.e., even "Down In the Grove" has Silvio .
Oh , Hello !

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 27, 2010 8:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Hey '74 fan...welcome, and for a '73 suggestion, please check out 6/22/73, Vancouver...if only for the BIRDSONG. Truly one of the greatest ever played.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: May 27, 2010 9:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

One of the 2 things that 74 dosen't have , "H.C. Sunshine " ( ok, one version) and "Bird Song's" like this ! I wonder why they droped it ? As much as I like the Nov-Dec 73 shows, they miss the "Bird Songs" from earlier in the year .

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: May 27, 2010 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Yes, and slightly off-topic--but that's also a complaint I have w/my favorite all-time year of 1977--no Birdsongs at all! Imagine how great that tune would have been given how astonishingly good they were that year.

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: May 27, 2010 11:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

That's an example why, I feel there is no "perfect" year , or show, there is usually something missing .

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Poster: 74_Fan Date: May 27, 2010 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

I'm definitely an omnivore and love some of the later stuff too. Thanks for the suggestions!

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: May 26, 2010 6:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Welcome aboard!! I love '74 as well, great jazzy sound in those Eyes and China>Rider transitions. I am curious why you don't like '73 as much. For me the '74 sound really starts in Nov '73 and continues until the break in the following October, you just get to add a few tunes like Scarlet and Ship of Fools as they hit Feb. Still I can't imagine skipping past the monster shows of Nov and Dec '73. Not being critical, just curious.

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Poster: 74_Fan Date: May 26, 2010 6:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Hi Elbow, thanks for the kind response. I should probably have said I'm not totally into those late '73 shows "yet"--I haven't really defined what it is, because I haven't gotten too deeply into the shows, but the '73s I've been checking out don't seem to gel the way the 74 shows do (to my ears at this point, anyway)--Keith seems a little too plinky-plinky-plinky to me (if you follow my brilliant musical analysis) and, though the energy is really HIGH and the musicianship amazing, I just don't get that cosmic flowing OOMPH like I feel when I hear those 74 shows. My tastes have grown and changed a lot since I started listening closely, so I guess I'm just not there yet and at some point will have to change my moniker to "Fall 73 Fan" LOL.

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Poster: billydlions Date: May 26, 2010 7:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Welcome aboard 74 Fan. I am in agreement with you on this. 1974 is my favorite year of the Keith era, and I rank it up there with my other favorite years (1980, 1981, 1977). For some reason 1973 has never really clicked (there are exceptions of course). Some of the jams are just too spacey and many songs seemed better by 1974. I like Garcia's sound better in 1974 (perhaps someone can shed some light on this...did he switch to Wolf in '74?) The wall of sound had great separation of the instruments, although the vocals were not as good. Most of all those jams are unbeatable- 6/28, 6/23, 10/19 (caution), etc etc.

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Poster: 74_Fan Date: May 26, 2010 8:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Thanks, billy--I also love that 80-81 period. Don't know what it was but I agree about Jerry's sound seeming different/better in '74. And I just love those fall Euro shows, like Allie Pallie (sp?) London--DP7--that for some reason gets kinda slagged on Amazon. I think it's just stellar, right from the crazy hot Scarlet that opens the show (Phil!). And 9/18/74 is another of my drugs, just knocks me out. Thanks for your thoughts!

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: May 27, 2010 11:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

The 9/11/74 Eyes of the World is one of my favorites! It's got a beautiful, unique introduction segment and is extremely colorful, even in the midst of the rest of 1974.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: May 28, 2010 9:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

A good place to start exploring 1973 might be the 11/11/73 show, particular the dark star. It's quite spectacular. You might also check out the Watkins Glen soundcheck (7/27) and the many incredible June/July performances (6/9, 6/10, 6/22, 6/30, 7/1).

Also, Noah Weiner has a very good blog documenting his personal favorites, and 1973 is very well represented: www.deadlistening.com

This post was modified by midnightcarousel on 2010-05-28 16:47:55

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Poster: 74_Fan Date: May 26, 2010 8:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Thanks, midnight, I'll definitely check those out...believe it or not, before your response came in I was just beginning to listen to 11/11/73...I'll report back! Best wishes.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: May 27, 2010 9:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Some of my favorites from 73...

2/9/73, 3/24/73, 3/26/73, 5/26/73, 8/1/73, 11/11/73, 11/17/73, 11/21/73, 12/6/73, 12/18/73

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 27, 2010 6:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Just saying hi / & fave shows

Very PMish. Very classy and cool .